Session Start: Wed May 24 22:11:55 2000 * Logging #alhn to '#alhn1.log' waiting on Noel [22:12] Do we have a q? [22:12] yes, [22:12] yes, we do [22:12] you need to begin the meeting [22:12] 6/7 [22:12] Ok [22:13] *** genesee has joined #alhn [22:13] hello please identify yourself [22:13] Hi it's Lesley [22:13] I lesley and good day [22:13] *** NVance sets mode: +o genesee [22:13] or is it goodevening :o) [22:13] ok, everyone is here. [22:13] yes [22:13] Lesley, please go up to Commands, and then change Nick to real name [22:13] This meeting is official called to order. [22:14] As the Secretary I would like to welcome each and every one of our new boar members. Congratualtions on your "win" sorry board Would everyone identify themselves for the record. *** genesee is now known as Lesley here Susan Fanning Barb= Barb Lavin Eveline M. Crocker , Texas Kathy Leigh Noel Matthews Lesley >> Lesley Moss Thanks It has been timestamped and recorded good. I move we call the meeting to order Seconded i second Ok what is on the agenda for the meeting Mr. President? On behalf of the "old" board members I want welcome everyone that won their election as director You are now officially seated. thank you Thank you thanks I also want to re-welcome ya'll thanks The agenda was put out. did everyone understand the change? yes I have not seen the agenda yes yes I raced in here to do this yes change? Since the ALHN Ring Master is not a position that has been voted on by the membership, it will remain an "apointed position" for now yes I saw the change I've read the agenda excuse me, okay I have appointed Eveline and she has accepted. thank you for? Is there any objection to that appointment? for? ring master Noel, better follow the agenda that should be under new business Ok may I suggest we STICK to the agenda ok should n't barb read the old minutr Back to this shortly. lol Approval of minutes of past meeting Any changes? Eveline.... we don't read the minutes.... they have been posted I so move approval the last minutes were the seating of Noel and the agreement to have the Emergency by-laws go to the members. It was sent to the members and passed. I make a motion to approve the old minutes as recorded. okay, whatever I second i second Moved and second to approve minutes as posted. posted All in favor say yes aie yes yes yes aye yes, Passed noted Next order of business: Election of officers. I move Noel be president second Need to elect President, Vice President, and Treasurer i nominee s fanning I second Are there any nominations for President? You are getting ahead of the game. Noel we nominated and seconded you S fanning for Pres Question, don't we have to be officially seated before election of officers? you are Ok, just wanted to be sure. Are there any other nominations? Noel we are ahead of you You I nominate Noel for pres did you recog. my nom of s fanning Hearing none, I close the nominations. that is Susan Fanning and Noel M. We have for President: Noel Matthews and Susan Fanning This will be an open ballot voting. All for Noel: susan Fanning aye aye aye sorry Noel ..... I vote Noel aye aye I record 5 for Noel All for Susan: aye The chair records one./ Noel is declared the winner. Are there nominations for Vice President? I nominate Susan Fanning second I second I nominate Susan fanning Any other nominations? All in favor of Susan as the Vice President? aye aye aye aye aye LOL abstiene Susan is declared the winner. Congratulations Next up, Treasurer I nominate Eveline second I nominate Kathy Leigh second Eveline has been nominated as treasurer and seconded. any other nominations? Kathy has been nominated and seconded We have Eveline and Kathy. Any others? All in favor of Eveline: aye aye aye All in favor of Kathy: aye aye aye Noel may I interject? Yes you HAVE to vote I will on this one since there is a tie. ok I vote for Kathy. Kathy is the winner. Congratulations I thank you for taking the money off my shoulders LOL LOL! Congrats to the new officers what money? What money???? thanks the money we are suppose to have and don't the graphics and name is worth money joking true Eveline congrats everyone yes they are Yes Congrats to the new officiers OK. that explains it. officers? Yes congratulations to all. LOL very tired here okay Now, back to the Alhn ring Master. wait why not make ring master an office ok sorry In order to do that, I believe we would need a by-laws change I don't see a problem with it but it a BOARD appointed office if it is In order to make it an officer position, it must be voted on by the membership. No oh! Yes an appointed position we can do tonight am saying no to the membership Normie I know..... it would be the same as the webmaster I thougth Noel appointed me the other day and Webmaster is an appointed position right now needs to be done in the meeting yes ... May I continue????? no lol let's get on with it Eveline has been appointed and accepted the position of ALHN ring Master. Are there any objections to that appointment? none here... no None none none Hearing none she is officially the ALHN Ring Master, should we ever get out hands on the current one or start another one. none start a fresh Start new. Is there any other new business to be brought before this body? [22:39] I have a ? [22:39] as I suggest on the mail , why not start a temporary one as ALHNII [22:39] I would like the status of the by-laws committee and plans to get this committee underway again. [22:39] wait, Noel, we need to decide on ring [22:39] I also have a question [22:40] I have hopes of getting the old one so since it is set up lets wait a little longer [22:40] good I agree [22:40] I would like to see the old ring saved if possible... [22:40] excuse me [22:40] is anyone else logging this?? [22:40] I think it would be easier for those already on the ring. [22:40] I'm logging [22:40] not here. [22:40] It has good traffic and over 200 members. [22:40] i am not barb [22:40] someone please begin logging [22:41] norm is [22:41] Read my lips..... I'm logging [22:41] ok [22:41] [22:41] LOL - thanks myputer is being difficult [22:41] anything else on the web ring for now? [22:41] No, let's let Eveline handle it [22:41] I agree if its possible [22:41] let vote to stay frim for now [22:41] I think we should begin fresh. I for one would like to get away from the whole fiasco begun on Jan 12 2000 [22:42] That's behind us, we are "fresh" now [22:42] not imo [22:42] This has nothing really to do with that barb and people are still using it [22:42] right [22:42] Eveline and I will work on the Web Ring. [22:43] I have done a though check and have it running on my site [22:43] I understand that but it may be difficult to get it away from Jeff and people have it already as Jeff I receive TONS of email about the various rings he began in the name of ALHN [22:43] We have both requested to adopt the old one. [22:43] various rings? [22:43] and? [22:43] Jeff has abandon it. [22:43] yes there is another ALHN ring he began [22:43] there is.... [22:43] the American Local History Military Webring [22:43] it is really ALHN INC assets [22:43] I was only aware of the one. [22:44] This other one should be worked on obtaining also. [22:44] no there is another. I have received email about the second already [22:44] Let's stick with the history one and not get involved in the military one. [22:44] that was the Military one and we will let him keep it [22:44] Or the ALHN taken off it. [22:44] he ISN"T working that one either and it IS linked to ALHN [22:44] just a question... [22:45] Y&es, because that belongs to the INC [22:45] no Evelyn you aren't hearing this. The ring is NOT an assest [22:45] ALHN Is ours one of our asset ms. Kathy [22:45] But, it does bear the name of ALHN.... [22:45] Oh, yes, it is Barb. [22:46] the rings are a convience for us - the fact is Jerry did many things involving the rings which have oour name attached to them [22:46] and there could be things done on the ring that we do not want affiliated with ALHN [22:46] It was part of the INC that was let slippe dby [22:46] we can't abondon them we have to bring them in somehow THAT'S why I said start a new [22:46] New Bylaws: any thoughts?? [22:47] correct. I move we think about what to do let evelyn investigate the other rings - and when we meet next we have solid ideas on this [22:47] Let's let Eveline and Noel research the WebRing [22:47] it has our logo on it and our link membership in it. [22:47] Not a good idea Noel - we need to do one at a time [22:47] I agree that Eveline and Noel need further time to look at this...continue with the one...and then work on the other [22:47] so is this seconded?? [22:47] seconded [22:48] Noel? [22:48] So what is the motion? [22:48] the name is also what i am finding still in use. Mary flody said she had removed but I found one in the ring [22:48] we table this discussion and let the 2 of you investigate somemore [22:48] okay, [22:48] and report at the next meeting [22:48] I also spoke to Mary about this. [22:48] What is the motion that is before us???? [22:49] Hearing none, we will move on. [22:49] we table this and when we meet next there is some solid information we can base descions on [22:49] that we table the ring di [22:49] hope [22:49] Noeli don't type THAt fast [22:49] I call for the vote [22:49] vote for what? [22:49] What is the motion before us???? [22:50] ON THE MOTION [22:50] tabling this discussion till next meeting [22:50] aya [22:50] aye [22:50] aye [22:50] aye [22:50] aye [22:50] aye [22:50] Noel, you should vote on everything, too [22:50] Fine, but we didn't need a motion since it had already been referred to the ALHN ring master and the president. [22:51] we do for the motion to table [22:51] Not by the board.... [22:51] oh well [22:51] End of discussion on the web ring. [22:51] aya [22:51] good [22:51] and the vote? [22:51] any thoughts on the bylaws? [22:51] Noel you have to declare it tabled [22:51] why do we need to change what we are using? [22:51] It is tabled. [22:52] thanks [22:52] next item please [22:52] Don't get ahead of me people. [22:52] By laws I am referring too [22:52] I think we need to have a new committee and let them LOOK at the bylaws to determine if we need new bylaws [22:52] New business? [22:53] restructuring the bylaws is new business. [22:53] I feel we could incorperate the preamble. [22:53] It already is [22:53] I again state we should get a new committee and have them determine if we need to revamp the bylaws [22:53] We need a committee to look at both to come up with one document. [22:53] Yes, I agree [22:54] both? [22:54] and that is a re-write of the by-laws, even if incorporation of the two documents [22:54] Someone needs to find out if Leigh Smith is still on the committee [22:54] I mean, satified with it as far as bylaws go, we had trouble the last time [22:54] with committee. [22:54] yes current by-laws and the preamble. [22:54] We need to have a committee to decide if they need revamping [22:55] agreed [22:55] LSmith was never approved by membership [22:55] Susan, as VP will you chair the Bylaws committee? [22:55] she is a hold over from the last board, yes she is [22:55] yes [22:55] ok so we need to find out about Leigh Smith [22:55] She is neg. too [22:55] Who would like to work on the new committee? [22:56] As far as I know, Leigh didn't resign [22:56] ok so how many members is there supose to be for the bylaws committee Norm? [22:56] is she still on the voting membership list? [22:56] Leigh has not been reappointed to the new committee. [22:56] yet [22:56] she doesn't need to be Noel [22:57] I agree noel, need new comm. [22:57] for a new committee she does, right? [22:57] you CAN'T kick her out - just like Norm and I couldn't be kicked out [22:57] Leigh is already an existing member of the existing committee [22:57] right [22:57] and she should be carried into the next, unless she declines then. [22:57] the committee has to HAVE her in it [22:57] I agree [22:58] delete the present committee and let Susan nominatee her own new comm [22:58] you can't [22:58] you can have people from the membership on the committee, too [22:58] no, you cannot, the committee was not desolved. [22:58] and it is not a standing committee [22:58] thanks Susan [22:58] right, voting membership imo [22:58] No it wasn't dissolved, I just resigned from it the other day, remember [22:59] yes, I agree Eveline. [22:59] eveline Leigh can't be forgotten about and the committe IS a standing committee [22:59] Would it be appropriate to have the secretary post for new committee members from the general membership? [22:59] yes [22:59] certainly [22:59] Susan, you should sytart anew imo because there was to much conflict [22:59] She can't eveline. [22:59] But, we cannot. [23:00] why [23:00] Because the old committee was not dissolved. [23:00] just because you don't like something, you can't abolish it [23:00] so, anyone that is there, is there, unless they resign [23:00] okI move I as the Secretary ask Leigh if she is still on the committee and then call for volunteers among the voting members [23:00] we can dissolve it now. [23:00] Not a good idea eveline [23:00] no, the business was not finished. [23:01] that would not be good. [23:01] how were the old committee members determined as part of the copmmittee? [23:01] any one care to second my move?? [23:01] How many board members were to be on the committee? [23:01] election or appointment? [23:01] I second [23:01] There were 2 board members and 5 non-board members [23:01] neither it was volunteer [23:01] Time - Time - Time - [23:01] what move? [23:01] thanks Norm. [23:01] Eveline please scroll up [23:01] I am , sec, ask [23:02] only answer the questions that the president is piutting forward. [23:02]